|
Sprinkler Systems
Uhaul move
Lawn care
Roses and trees
Ford Parts
Chrysler Parts
Lake Powell
New IPod Touch Apps
New IPhone Apps
IPhone Apps
IPad Information
IPad Apps
Android APPS
Android Games APPS
Android Systems
Android Tablets APPS and Beyond
Smartphone Apps
Smartphone Games Apps Repair and Tools
Tablet PC
Car Sharing Car Leasing
Tabler Pc
Fly Fishing
Toyota Cars
Vacation Rentals
Stock market
NYSE
SSE Stock
Freight & Shipping News
Gluten
Lactose
Gout
My Coupon Life
Campgrounds Check
Outdoor
Kitchen Design and Redoo
Bath Remodeling
Palm Springs
Las Vegas Vacation Tipps
Lake Powell Boating
Homes for lease
Electric and green Car Blog
Pearls and diamonds
Whatsapp and forget SMS Blog, What is Whatsapp App
Solar Panel Solar Energie Sun Power Blog
|
Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] Rabbits LOVE apples
| [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264654] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 01:26 |
|
There's a small greenspace outside the building I work in. Often in
the morning or evening there will be a few rabbits nibbling the grass.
As the seem accustomed to the presence of people they don't bolt,
though tend to keep their disance.
Sometimes I bring an apple to work, which I snack on late in the
afternoon, usually heaving the core off into the brush without any
thought other than it would be nice if an apple tree were to spring up
some day.
One day last week my throw isn't on and the core lands short and on the
grass. A feeding rabbit furtively approaches it and begins to nibble
on it. Odd, I thought, I didn't know they would eat appes. Apple tree
bark in the winter, yes, but not apples.
Monday I'm on the walk outside of the building and eating an apple. A
bun hops out of the brush and sits about 20 feet away, looking squarely
at me. Another appears from some scrub along the building, also
regarding me intently. This is where I start having the threads of
some thriller from the distant cinematic past, involving rats or birds,
tugged at. I finish and flip the core into the middle of the pitch. A
bird darts from under nearby cover, beelining for the apple remnant,
which it just doesn't get to it faster than one of the rabbits, which
snatches it and drags it a good two feet. It comences nibbling the
apple core while other rabbit approaches, and a minor fray ensues, with
them chasing each other around, hopping high into the air and whatnot
before the evident dominant one drags the apple core under the brush to
presumably finish in peace.
Thursday I have an apple with a small soft spot, punctured and cut it
away with a pocket knife. I don't see rabbits right off, but toss the
bit into the grass. A rabbit immediately appears, picks it up in its
mouth and takes it into the shelter of some overhanging brush and
finishes it. Another rabbit appears, but as there's nothing left by
this point it seems content to wait. Meantime I've read that rabbits
do eat apples, apparently moreso than carrots, but seeds should be kept
from them. I finish up, cut both ends away from the portion containing
seeds and pitch a section near each rabbit. When I check later there's
nothing to be seen.
Today, Friday, I slip out for a break and an apple. The rabbits are
there and very bold now. They both will wait within 6 feet of me
watching and waiting, however they view each other as rivals for what
they have learned my appearance means and begin chasing each other all
around, with great vigor. I bite off a couple small pieces and toss
them onto the grass and each gets a piece and drags it off a discreet
distance and finishes it then resume sparring for position. I cut off
the ends of the core, away from the seeds and throw a bit where each
rabbit was last seen. One obtains it and takes it off into the brush,
the other is nowhere to be see, but I expect it will smell the apple
part and get it.
I've never seen rabbits so bold or fight over food. I'll probably
curtail this as I don't want to encourage them a great deal to the
point they enter the building looking for the source of apples or
neglect their natural diet.
It's certainly been an interesting week.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264657 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 01:48 |
|
Also Sprach ackthpt [at] concentric.net:
> I've never seen rabbits so bold or fight over food. I'll
> probably curtail this as I don't want to encourage them a
> great deal to the point they enter the building looking for
> the source of apples or neglect their natural diet.
Although if anyone from work says they've *lost* an apple, you
can say "I've got a theory..."
IGMC.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"What do monsters have nightmares about?"
"Me!"
-The Doctor
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264658 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 01:50 |
|
In article <1147476405.097568.12600 [at] v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
generously decided to share with us..
Snippetry..
> I've never seen rabbits so bold or fight over food. I'll probably
> curtail this as I don't want to encourage them a great deal to the
> point they enter the building looking for the source of apples or
> neglect their natural diet.
No.. keep feeding them.. eventually they'll become tame enough to catch
them and there's good eating on a rabbit..
Gid
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264660 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 02:05 |
|
ackthpt [at] concentric.net wrote:
> There's a small greenspace outside the building I work in. Often in
> the morning or evening there will be a few rabbits nibbling the grass.
> As the seem accustomed to the presence of people they don't bolt,
> though tend to keep their disance.
>
> Sometimes I bring an apple to work, which I snack on late in the
> afternoon, usually heaving the core off into the brush without any
> thought other than it would be nice if an apple tree were to spring up
> some day.
>
> One day last week my throw isn't on and the core lands short and on the
> grass. A feeding rabbit furtively approaches it and begins to nibble
> on it. Odd, I thought, I didn't know they would eat appes. Apple tree
> bark in the winter, yes, but not apples.
>
> Monday I'm on the walk outside of the building and eating an apple. A
> bun hops out of the brush and sits about 20 feet away, looking squarely
> at me. Another appears from some scrub along the building, also
> regarding me intently. This is where I start having the threads of
> some thriller from the distant cinematic past, involving rats or birds,
> tugged at. I finish and flip the core into the middle of the pitch. A
> bird darts from under nearby cover, beelining for the apple remnant,
> which it just doesn't get to it faster than one of the rabbits, which
> snatches it and drags it a good two feet. It comences nibbling the
> apple core while other rabbit approaches, and a minor fray ensues, with
> them chasing each other around, hopping high into the air and whatnot
> before the evident dominant one drags the apple core under the brush to
> presumably finish in peace.
>
> Thursday I have an apple with a small soft spot, punctured and cut it
> away with a pocket knife. I don't see rabbits right off, but toss the
> bit into the grass. A rabbit immediately appears, picks it up in its
> mouth and takes it into the shelter of some overhanging brush and
> finishes it. Another rabbit appears, but as there's nothing left by
> this point it seems content to wait. Meantime I've read that rabbits
> do eat apples, apparently moreso than carrots, but seeds should be kept
> from them. I finish up, cut both ends away from the portion containing
> seeds and pitch a section near each rabbit. When I check later there's
> nothing to be seen.
>
> Today, Friday, I slip out for a break and an apple. The rabbits are
> there and very bold now. They both will wait within 6 feet of me
> watching and waiting, however they view each other as rivals for what
> they have learned my appearance means and begin chasing each other all
> around, with great vigor. I bite off a couple small pieces and toss
> them onto the grass and each gets a piece and drags it off a discreet
> distance and finishes it then resume sparring for position. I cut off
> the ends of the core, away from the seeds and throw a bit where each
> rabbit was last seen. One obtains it and takes it off into the brush,
> the other is nowhere to be see, but I expect it will smell the apple
> part and get it.
>
> I've never seen rabbits so bold or fight over food. I'll probably
> curtail this as I don't want to encourage them a great deal to the
> point they enter the building looking for the source of apples or
> neglect their natural diet.
>
> It's certainly been an interesting week.
Apple seeds contain small amounts of cyanide, so do apricot seeds,
although not enough to harm most humans. Peach seeds, on t'other hand
can really make you sick or even possibly dead.
I think if you sit really quietly in the greenspace with apple-bits in
your lap, the bunnies will come eat them. This worked well for me with
squirrels and peanuts on the Pacific coast in 1989; I have video of it.
-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264702 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 11:20 |
|
In message <9p99g.63538$5Z.46953 [at] dukeread02>, Rocky Frisco
<rocknatural [at] gmail.com> writes
[ hack ]
>I think if you sit really quietly in the greenspace with apple-bits in
>your lap, the bunnies will come eat them. This worked well for me with
>squirrels and peanuts on the Pacific coast in 1989; I have video of it.
Could you do that at the Can and then catch the buggers and take them
back with you?
( Unfortunately any squirrels round there will be introduced greys and
not native reds. )
Mart.
--
Livejournal at http://pendlemac.livejournal.com
Caroline's afpersonal God of Misunderstandings & afpSlave to CCA.
IM stuff :- ICQ: 246971821 Yahoo, AIM or MSN: pendlemac
all via gateways to pendlemac [at] myjabber.net
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264705 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 11:59 |
|
Rocky Frisco <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> writes:
> Apple seeds contain small amounts of cyanide, so do apricot seeds,
> although not enough to harm most humans. Peach seeds, on t'other hand
> can really make you sick or even possibly dead.
According to my Organic Chemistry tutor, apple seeds contain
cyano-sugars. He should know -- the chemistry of sugars and other
small molecules with lots of chiral centers was his principal research
interest. Those cyano-sugars can be persuaded to break down and emit
cyanide quite readily, for instance, by moderate heating. Toasted
apple seeds are seriously not recommended: a small quantity does
contain enough nasty to make you very ill.
On the other hand, one or other of peach or apricot stones -- I forget
which -- is essentially the same thing as an almond. In the same
sense that brussels sprouts are essentially cabbages. Of course
almonds have been bred for centuries to remove all the nastyness from
the nut, and peaches/apricots ditto from the flesh of the fruit.
Cheers,
Matthew
--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264714 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 15:40 |
|
In article <86hd3unt3r.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>,
m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk says...
> On the other hand, one or other of peach or apricot stones -- I forget
> which -- is essentially the same thing as an almond. In the same
> sense that brussels sprouts are essentially cabbages. Of course
> almonds have been bred for centuries to remove all the nastyness from
> the nut, and peaches/apricots ditto from the flesh of the fruit.
I don't think almonds were bred to remove the cyanide - I think it is a
single point mutation which disabled (from the almonds point of view) a
useful defensive mechanism. I think there exist almonds which are as
poisonous as peaches, apricots etc. More like albinism or the gigantism
of cultivated daffodils than continuum breeding. Which, of course, has
meand that the poison-less almond has florished compared to its
poisonous cousin because, evvectively, of a symbiosis with humans.
The outer flesh or peacehs etc. on the other hand has never, I think,
been poisonous. This is the tree's dispersion method: get animals to
pick the fruit for the tasty outer covering, carrying it either
internally or externally to new growing areas, but dissuade them from
cracking the nut and eating the true seed by making it poisonous. While
humand have bred the trees to increase the thickness and sweetness of
the flesh, I don't think de-poisoning it has been necessary.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264719 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 17:09 |
|
On Sat, 13 May 2006 10:20:46 +0100, Martyn Clapham wrote:
>
>>I think if you sit really quietly in the greenspace with apple-bits in
>>your lap, the bunnies will come eat them. This worked well for me with
>>squirrels and peanuts on the Pacific coast in 1989; I have video of it.
>
> Could you do that at the Can and then catch the buggers and take them
> back with you?
>
> ( Unfortunately any squirrels round there will be introduced greys and
> not native reds. )
>
> Mart.
My mother-in-law goes absolutely crazy when she puts bird seed out onto
this hanging thingy in her garden for the different little birds living in
her area, and in minutes, the entire thing's covered in grey squirrels
munching away at it.
If you really want to catch a squirrel, you could use the same tactic as a
sneaky little squirrel-catching trick.
All the best
Sofie
--
Please visit my deviantART page: http://sofen.deviantart.com/
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #264720 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 17:11 |
|
On Sat, 13 May 2006 14:40:36 +0100, Alec Cawley
<alec [at] spamspam.co.uk> jotted down:
>In article <86hd3unt3r.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>,
>m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk says...
>
>> On the other hand, one or other of peach or apricot stones -- I forget
>> which -- is essentially the same thing as an almond. In the same
>> sense that brussels sprouts are essentially cabbages. Of course
>> almonds have been bred for centuries to remove all the nastyness from
>> the nut, and peaches/apricots ditto from the flesh of the fruit.
>
>I don't think almonds were bred to remove the cyanide - I think it is a
>single point mutation which disabled (from the almonds point of view) a
>useful defensive mechanism. I think there exist almonds which are as
>poisonous as peaches, apricots etc. More like albinism or the gigantism
>of cultivated daffodils than continuum breeding. Which, of course, has
>meand that the poison-less almond has florished compared to its
>poisonous cousin because, evvectively, of a symbiosis with humans.
Yeah, we call the poisonous ones bitter almonds
(bittermandel)
--
Elin
The Tale of Westala and Villtin
http://tale.cunobaros.com/
The Oswalds DW casting award - Vote Now!
http://www.student.lu.se/~his02ero/Oswald/index.html
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266766 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 19:01 |
|
> One day last week my throw isn't on and the core lands short and on the
> grass. A feeding rabbit furtively approaches it and begins to nibble
> on it. Odd, I thought, I didn't know they would eat appes. Apple tree
> bark in the winter, yes, but not apples.
"Hello... my name is fluffy..."
[chorus]: "Hello, fluffy!"
"I started doing apples, well, last spring. It all started innocently
enough... a guy threw a core away, saying "first taste is free." So I
tried it. Why not? I didn't realize it would lead me to a life of
begging and other depravities..."
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266772 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 19:45 |
|
in article 9p99g.63538$5Z.46953 [at] dukeread02, Rocky Frisco at
rocknatural [at] gmail.com wrote on 12/05/2006 5:05 PM:
> ackthpt [at] concentric.net wrote:
<snip entertaining story of rabbits eating apples>
>> I've never seen rabbits so bold or fight over food. I'll probably
>> curtail this as I don't want to encourage them a great deal to the
>> point they enter the building looking for the source of apples or
>> neglect their natural diet.
>>
>> It's certainly been an interesting week.
>
> Apple seeds contain small amounts of cyanide, so do apricot seeds,
> although not enough to harm most humans. Peach seeds, on t'other hand
> can really make you sick or even possibly dead.
>
> I think if you sit really quietly in the greenspace with apple-bits in
> your lap, the bunnies will come eat them. This worked well for me with
> squirrels and peanuts on the Pacific coast in 1989; I have video of it.
The squirrels in Stanley Park (which is on the Pacific Coast) will search
people's pockets for food, with or without the people's consent, and the
chipmunks in the local mountains will dig whatever they can find out of your
backpack, so that you have to check for them in the backpack before leaving
the mountain top. The whiskey jacks (a type of jay) up there will snatch
food out of your mouth if you're not quick enough in closing your mouth
after taking a bite.
Lately, the bunnies in Jericho park (another Pacific Coast park that is
not nearly so wild as Stanley Park, which is itself really tame compared to
the mountain tops) have taken to coming up close to people and staring
intently at them. Until last year they were extremely shy and it was
difficult to catch more than a glimpse of them. We take bird-seed for the
ducks and other birds who live there, but that doesn't seem to be what the
rabbits want - perhaps someone has been feeding them apples.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266773 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 19:56 |
|
Lesley Weston:
>
> We take bird-seed for the
> ducks and other birds who live there, but that doesn't seem to be what the
> rabbits want - perhaps someone has been feeding them apples.
Well... mostly apples.
--
\\\\ Jens Ayton, Fratello di Vetinari 36.3636363636364% insane
\\\\\__, Bringing sarcastic one-liners to the common hedgehog since 1999
\\\\\`/
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266775 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 20:13 |
|
On 2006-05-13 12:45:04 -0500, Lesley Weston
<brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk> said:
> The squirrels in Stanley Park (which is on the Pacific Coast) will search
> people's pockets for food, with or without the people's consent, and the
> chipmunks in the local mountains will dig whatever they can find out of your
> backpack,
The squirrels in Washington Park (in Denver, Colorado) wear red
bandanas and giant sneakers...I'm wondering where they are getting
their gold teeth from, though
--
My computer is so fast it can execute an infinite loop in 3 seconds.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266785 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 21:02 |
|
Martyn Clapham wrote:
> In message <9p99g.63538$5Z.46953 [at] dukeread02>, Rocky Frisco
> <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> writes
>
> [ hack ]
>
>> I think if you sit really quietly in the greenspace with apple-bits in
>> your lap, the bunnies will come eat them. This worked well for me with
>> squirrels and peanuts on the Pacific coast in 1989; I have video of it.
>
>
> Could you do that at the Can and then catch the buggers and take them
> back with you?
>
> ( Unfortunately any squirrels round there will be introduced greys and
> not native reds. )
You mean the Can at the Con? You have squirrels in your bathrooms in the UK?
BTW, the exact opposite happened here in Oklahoma: there are almost no
greys; they were decimated by the reds, which are much larger than greys
here.
-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266793 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 21:46 |
|
Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Rocky Frisco <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>Apple seeds contain small amounts of cyanide, so do apricot seeds,
>>although not enough to harm most humans. Peach seeds, on t'other hand
>>can really make you sick or even possibly dead.
>
>
> According to my Organic Chemistry tutor, apple seeds contain
> cyano-sugars. He should know -- the chemistry of sugars and other
> small molecules with lots of chiral centers was his principal research
> interest. Those cyano-sugars can be persuaded to break down and emit
> cyanide quite readily, for instance, by moderate heating. Toasted
> apple seeds are seriously not recommended: a small quantity does
> contain enough nasty to make you very ill.
>
> On the other hand, one or other of peach or apricot stones -- I forget
> which -- is essentially the same thing as an almond. In the same
> sense that brussels sprouts are essentially cabbages. Of course
> almonds have been bred for centuries to remove all the nastyness from
> the nut, and peaches/apricots ditto from the flesh of the fruit.
I have been told that both almond and apricot trees must be approved by
the village elders in many cultures before the fruit can be used. Those
who advised me also said this is accomplished by smelling the tree and
the fruit to see if it has the distinctive burnt-almond aroma that
signifies a high cyanide content, since trees, like humans, come in many
different forms, and some trees can be throwbacks to a time when their
fruit was much more poisonous.
-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266797 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 21:53 |
|
Alec Cawley wrote:
> In article <86hd3unt3r.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>,
> m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk says...
>
>
>>On the other hand, one or other of peach or apricot stones -- I forget
>>which -- is essentially the same thing as an almond. In the same
>>sense that brussels sprouts are essentially cabbages. Of course
>>almonds have been bred for centuries to remove all the nastyness from
>>the nut, and peaches/apricots ditto from the flesh of the fruit.
>
>
> I don't think almonds were bred to remove the cyanide - I think it is a
> single point mutation which disabled (from the almonds point of view) a
> useful defensive mechanism. I think there exist almonds which are as
> poisonous as peaches, apricots etc. More like albinism or the gigantism
> of cultivated daffodils than continuum breeding. Which, of course, has
> meand that the poison-less almond has florished compared to its
> poisonous cousin because, evvectively, of a symbiosis with humans.
>
> The outer flesh or peacehs etc. on the other hand has never, I think,
> been poisonous. This is the tree's dispersion method: get animals to
> pick the fruit for the tasty outer covering, carrying it either
> internally or externally to new growing areas, but dissuade them from
> cracking the nut and eating the true seed by making it poisonous. While
> humand have bred the trees to increase the thickness and sweetness of
> the flesh, I don't think de-poisoning it has been necessary.
I have eaten many apricot "stones" in my life, with no adverse effects.
See other message for description of the human method used to weed out
the poisonous trees.
-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266828 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 23:42 |
|
Alec Cawley <alec [at] spamspam.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <86hd3unt3r.fsf [at] happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk>,
> m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk says...
>
> > On the other hand, one or other of peach or apricot stones -- I forget
> > which -- is essentially the same thing as an almond. In the same
> > sense that brussels sprouts are essentially cabbages. Of course
> > almonds have been bred for centuries to remove all the nastyness from
> > the nut, and peaches/apricots ditto from the flesh of the fruit.
>
> I don't think almonds were bred to remove the cyanide - I think it is a
> single point mutation which disabled (from the almonds point of view) a
> useful defensive mechanism. I think there exist almonds which are as
> poisonous as peaches, apricots etc.
Yes. They are known as sweet almonds. Peach and apricot seeds are not
poisonous to any serious degree. I ought to know, I've been eating them
since I was strong enough to crack open the pit, and I've never had so
much as an upset stomach from any of them. In fact, peach seeds are
often used to replace real almonds in the cheaper kinds of marzipan.
Bitter almonds, OTOH, do contain cyanide, in the form of amygdaline.
Richard
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266829 ] |
Sa, 13 Mai 2006 23:42 |
|
bbottorff [at] nomail.com (Boyd Bottorff) wrote:
> > One day last week my throw isn't on and the core lands short and on the
> > grass. A feeding rabbit furtively approaches it and begins to nibble
> > on it. Odd, I thought, I didn't know they would eat appes. Apple tree
> > bark in the winter, yes, but not apples.
>
> "Hello... my name is fluffy..."
>
> [chorus]: "Hello, fluffy!"
>
> "I started doing apples, well, last spring. It all started innocently
> enough... a guy threw a core away, saying "first taste is free." So I
> tried it. Why not? I didn't realize it would lead me to a life of
> begging and other depravities..."
Anyone seen that nature film with the scene with the fermenting figs in
it? It's quite famous, I believe, but I can't think of the title right
now. But the images I can remember quite clearly - the sight of a
drunken elephant is unforgettable, as is a hung-over warthog.
Richard
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266839 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 00:30 |
|
Richard Bos wrote:
> Anyone seen that nature film with the scene with the fermenting figs
> in it? It's quite famous, I believe, but I can't think of the title
> right now. But the images I can remember quite clearly - the sight of
> a drunken elephant is unforgettable, as is a hung-over warthog.
Beautiful People, and it was marulas.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266841 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 00:37 |
|
Richard Bos:
>
> Anyone seen that nature film with the scene with the fermenting figs in
> it? It's quite famous, I believe, but I can't think of the title right
> now. But the images I can remember quite clearly - the sight of a
> drunken elephant is unforgettable, as is a hung-over warthog.
The marula fruit is the traditional alcohol vector of choice for
elephants, but figs will do at a pinch.
--
\\\\ Jens Ayton, Fratello di Vetinari 36.3636363636364% insane
\\\\\__, Bringing sarcastic one-liners to the common hedgehog since 1999
\\\\\`/
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266889 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 10:51 |
|
Rocky Frisco <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> writes:
> I have been told that both almond and apricot trees must be approved
> by the village elders in many cultures before the fruit can be
> used. Those who advised me also said this is accomplished by smelling
> the tree and the fruit to see if it has the distinctive burnt-almond
> aroma that signifies a high cyanide content, since trees, like humans,
> come in many different forms, and some trees can be throwbacks to a
> time when their fruit was much more poisonous.
Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3 of
the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell of
cyanide then...
Cheers,
Matthew
--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266899 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 17:16 |
|
Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Rocky Frisco <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>I have been told that both almond and apricot trees must be approved
>>by the village elders in many cultures before the fruit can be
>>used. Those who advised me also said this is accomplished by smelling
>>the tree and the fruit to see if it has the distinctive burnt-almond
>>aroma that signifies a high cyanide content, since trees, like humans,
>>come in many different forms, and some trees can be throwbacks to a
>>time when their fruit was much more poisonous.
>
>
> Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3 of
> the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell of
> cyanide then...
That's part of the job description, if I have been informed correctly.
-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266901 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 17:22 |
|
Rocky Frisco wrote:
> Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3
>> of the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell
>> of cyanide then...
>
> That's part of the job description, if I have been informed
> correctly.
I imagine that would be covered in the first week of training, or perhaps
part of the selection process for the position of shaman or village wise
man/woman. Line up your youths nd maidens, and see who can pick out the bad
peach.
This is just an impression from what I know of Native American cultures.
--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266923 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 18:43 |
|
On 13 May, René wrote:
> On 2006-05-13 12:45:04 -0500, Lesley Weston
> <brightly_coloured_blob [at] yahoo.co.uk> said:
>
>> The squirrels in Stanley Park (which is on the Pacific Coast) will search
>> people's pockets for food, with or without the people's consent, and the
>> chipmunks in the local mountains will dig whatever they can find out of your
>> backpack,
>
> The squirrels in Washington Park (in Denver, Colorado) wear red
> bandanas and giant sneakers...I'm wondering where they are getting
> their gold teeth from, though
>
They extract them before they bury the skulls?
--
Brian Howlett - Email to From: address deleted unseen
------------------------------------------------------------ -
People who live in glass houses should undress in the dark...
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266927 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 19:48 |
|
Lesley Weston wrote:
<snip>
>
> The squirrels in Stanley Park (which is on the Pacific Coast) will search
> people's pockets for food, with or without the people's consent, and the
> chipmunks in the local mountains will dig whatever they can find out of your
> backpack, so that you have to check for them in the backpack before leaving
> the mountain top. The whiskey jacks (a type of jay) up there will snatch
> food out of your mouth if you're not quick enough in closing your mouth
> after taking a bite.
>
Similarly, the sheep on Helvelyn work in pairs. One of them poses for
a pastoral picturesque photograph in front, while the other one nips
round behind and pinches your sandwiches out of your rucksack. I have
this on the best authority from someone known to someone my parents
know (a kind of rural urban myth?)
--
Jen[nifer Stone]
jmstone at lithoi dot demon dot co dot uk
"In housing his great tortoise, Tsang Wen-Chung
had the capitals of the pillars carved in the
shape of hills and the rafter posts painted in
a duckweed design. What is one to think of his
intelligence?" Confucius, /The Analects/
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266930 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 20:19 |
|
Stacie Hanes wrote:
> Rocky Frisco wrote:
>
>>Matthew Seaman wrote:
>
>
>>>Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3
>>>of the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell
>>>of cyanide then...
>>
>>That's part of the job description, if I have been informed
>>correctly.
>
>
> I imagine that would be covered in the first week of training, or perhaps
> part of the selection process for the position of shaman or village wise
> man/woman. Line up your youths nd maidens, and see who can pick out the bad
> peach.
>
> This is just an impression from what I know of Native American cultures.
I think you have the truth of it.
-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266933 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 20:33 |
|
"Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
> Rocky Frisco wrote:
> > Matthew Seaman wrote:
>
> >> Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3
> >> of the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell
> >> of cyanide then...
> >
> > That's part of the job description, if I have been informed
> > correctly.
>
> I imagine that would be covered in the first week of training, or perhaps
> part of the selection process for the position of shaman or village wise
> man/woman. Line up your youths nd maidens, and see who can pick out the bad
> peach.
>
> This is just an impression from what I know of Native American cultures.
Line up the village not-elders-yet and give them their choice of snack
from a bowl containing a random sample of apricots and almonds from
uninspected trees: the ones that survive being clearly pre-destined to
become elders?
Harsh, but effective.
Matthew
--
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
Kent, CT11 9PW
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266937 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 20:48 |
|
Matthew Seaman wrote:
> "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> Rocky Frisco wrote:
>>> Matthew Seaman wrote:
>>
>>>> Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3
>>>> of the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell
>>>> of cyanide then...
>>>
>>> That's part of the job description, if I have been informed
>>> correctly.
>>
>> I imagine that would be covered in the first week of training, or
>> perhaps part of the selection process for the position of shaman
>> or village wise man/woman. Line up your youths nd maidens, and see
>> who can pick out the bad peach.
>>
>> This is just an impression from what I know of Native American
>> cultures.
>
> Line up the village not-elders-yet and give them their choice of
> snack from a bowl containing a random sample of apricots and
> almonds from uninspected trees: the ones that survive being clearly
> pre-destined to become elders?
Possibly, yes. With the option to opt out of the selection, as the
confidence to carry through would be a prerequisite for the position of
medicine man, and the necessity of weeding out people with the "balls" to
choose but without the brains to choose wisely would also be vital.
The test would select for confidence, wisdom, williingness, and ability.
--
Stacie, 4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse.
AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons, Bondage-happy predator,
Speaker-To-Students, AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion &
AFPDeliciousSnack to 8'FED "If you can't be a good example, you'll
just have to be a horrible warning." C. Aird, _His Burial Too_
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266963 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 23:17 |
|
On 2006-05-14 13:48:15 -0500, "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> said:
> Matthew Seaman wrote:
>> "Stacie Hanes" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> Rocky Frisco wrote:
>>>> Matthew Seaman wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3
>>>>> of the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell
>>>>> of cyanide then...
>>>>
>>>> That's part of the job description, if I have been informed
>>>> correctly.
>>>
>>> I imagine that would be covered in the first week of training, or
>>> perhaps part of the selection process for the position of shaman
>>> or village wise man/woman. Line up your youths nd maidens, and see
>>> who can pick out the bad peach.
>>>
>>> This is just an impression from what I know of Native American
>>> cultures.
>>
>> Line up the village not-elders-yet and give them their choice of
>> snack from a bowl containing a random sample of apricots and
>> almonds from uninspected trees: the ones that survive being clearly
>> pre-destined to become elders?
>
> Possibly, yes. With the option to opt out of the selection, as the
> confidence to carry through would be a prerequisite for the position of
> medicine man, and the necessity of weeding out people with the "balls"
> to choose but without the brains to choose wisely would also be vital.
>
> The test would select for confidence, wisdom, williingness, and ability.
And lack of allergies against common foods. I think mashed peanuts and
seafood should be part of every school lunch menu :)
--
My computer is so fast it can execute an infinite loop in 3 seconds.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #266964 ] |
So, 14 Mai 2006 23:34 |
|
Jennifer Stone said:
> Similarly, the sheep on Helvelyn work in pairs. One of them poses for
> a pastoral picturesque photograph in front, while the other one nips
> round behind and pinches your sandwiches out of your rucksack. I have
> this on the best authority from someone known to someone my parents
> know (a kind of rural urban myth?)
I believe you're referring to a joke made by Barry Pilton in "One Man and
his Bog", a decades-old account of a fat forty-year-old's attempt on the
250-300 mile UK stroll known as "The Pennine Way". If need be, I'll dig out
the book and look it up.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267015 ] |
Mo, 15 Mai 2006 11:26 |
|
"SeekUp" <seek.up.girl [at] gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard Bos wrote:
>
> > Anyone seen that nature film with the scene with the fermenting figs
> > in it? It's quite famous, I believe, but I can't think of the title
> > right now. But the images I can remember quite clearly - the sight of
> > a drunken elephant is unforgettable, as is a hung-over warthog.
>
> Beautiful People, and it was marulas.
Yup, that's the one.
Richard
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267037 ] |
Mo, 15 Mai 2006 14:24 |
|
Matthew Seaman <m.seaman [at] infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote:
> Rocky Frisco <rocknatural [at] gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I have been told that both almond and apricot trees must be approved
>> by the village elders in many cultures before the fruit can be
>> used. Those who advised me also said this is accomplished by smelling
>> the tree and the fruit to see if it has the distinctive burnt-almond
>> aroma that signifies a high cyanide content, since trees, like humans,
>> come in many different forms, and some trees can be throwbacks to a
>> time when their fruit was much more poisonous.
>
> Better pray your village elder isn't one of the approximately 1/3 of
> the population without the genetic ability to detect the smell of
> cyanide then...
Those wouldn't be among village /elders/ then.
Schobi
--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org
"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267132 ] |
Di, 16 Mai 2006 00:12 |
|
in article 4iq74e.i84.ln [at] 127.0.0.1, Jennifer Stone at
jmstone [at] NOSPAMlithoi.demon.co.uk wrote on 14/05/2006 10:48 AM:
> Lesley Weston wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> The squirrels in Stanley Park (which is on the Pacific Coast) will search
>> people's pockets for food, with or without the people's consent, and the
>> chipmunks in the local mountains will dig whatever they can find out of your
>> backpack, so that you have to check for them in the backpack before leaving
>> the mountain top. The whiskey jacks (a type of jay) up there will snatch
>> food out of your mouth if you're not quick enough in closing your mouth
>> after taking a bite.
>>
>
> Similarly, the sheep on Helvelyn work in pairs. One of them poses for
> a pastoral picturesque photograph in front, while the other one nips
> round behind and pinches your sandwiches out of your rucksack. I have
> this on the best authority from someone known to someone my parents
> know (a kind of rural urban myth?)
Well then it's indisputably true, while my stories are decidedly dodgy,
since they are from my personal experience.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267170 ] |
Di, 16 Mai 2006 03:19 |
|
|
Post removed (X-No-Archive: yes)
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267176 ] |
Di, 16 Mai 2006 06:22 |
|
Sofia wrote:
> On Sat, 13 May 2006 10:20:46 +0100, Martyn Clapham wrote:
>
>
>>>I think if you sit really quietly in the greenspace with apple-bits in
>>>your lap, the bunnies will come eat them. This worked well for me with
>>>squirrels and peanuts on the Pacific coast in 1989; I have video of it.
>>
>>Could you do that at the Can and then catch the buggers and take them
>>back with you?
>>
>>( Unfortunately any squirrels round there will be introduced greys and
>>not native reds. )
>>
>>Mart.
>
>
>
> My mother-in-law goes absolutely crazy when she puts bird seed out onto
> this hanging thingy in her garden for the different little birds living in
> her area, and in minutes, the entire thing's covered in grey squirrels
> munching away at it.
>
> If you really want to catch a squirrel, you could use the same tactic as a
> sneaky little squirrel-catching trick.
>
>
> All the best
>
>
> Sofie
>
To outwit squirrels one must, in most circustances where luck is not
involved, be more clever than the squirrels.
Squirrels are accustomed to exploring and living in small enclosed
areas, so live-traps are very easy to construct and use.
If you only require encouraging them to leave the pitch, then a couple
football teams might do the trick.
< http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41577000/jpg/_41577732 _squirrel_ap.jpg>
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267178 ] |
Mo, 15 Mai 2006 22:11 |
|
Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Jennifer Stone said:
>
>
>>Similarly, the sheep on Helvelyn work in pairs. One of them poses for
>>a pastoral picturesque photograph in front, while the other one nips
>>round behind and pinches your sandwiches out of your rucksack. I have
>>this on the best authority from someone known to someone my parents
>>know (a kind of rural urban myth?)
>
>
> I believe you're referring to a joke made by Barry Pilton in "One Man and
> his Bog", a decades-old account of a fat forty-year-old's attempt on the
> 250-300 mile UK stroll known as "The Pennine Way". If need be, I'll dig out
> the book and look it up.
>
Will walk, and read, respectively, at some eventual juncture.
Isn't that the one where he makes his boots fit by throwing them into
a tarn and fishing them out again two days later?
--
Jen[nifer Stone]
jmstone at lithoi dot demon dot co dot uk
"In housing his great tortoise, Tsang Wen-Chung
had the capitals of the pillars carved in the
shape of hills and the rafter posts painted in
a duckweed design. What is one to think of his
intelligence?" Confucius, /The Analects/
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267192 ] |
Di, 16 Mai 2006 08:57 |
|
Jennifer Stone said:
> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> Jennifer Stone said:
>>
>>
>>>Similarly, the sheep on Helvelyn work in pairs. One of them poses for
>>>a pastoral picturesque photograph in front, while the other one nips
>>>round behind and pinches your sandwiches out of your rucksack. I have
>>>this on the best authority from someone known to someone my parents
>>>know (a kind of rural urban myth?)
>>
>> I believe you're referring to a joke made by Barry Pilton in "One Man and
>> his Bog", a decades-old account of a fat forty-year-old's attempt on the
>> 250-300 mile UK stroll known as "The Pennine Way". If need be, I'll dig
>> out the book and look it up.
>
> Will walk, and read, respectively, at some eventual juncture.
>
> Isn't that the one where he makes his boots fit by throwing them into
> a tarn and fishing them out again two days later?
No, because he would never, ever have been able to summon up the energy to
fish them out again. It is a most endearing account, the more so for being
quite evidently true. Pilton is the Jerome K Jerome of the Pennines.
--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267318 ] |
Di, 16 Mai 2006 22:17 |
|
Also Sprach Richard Adams:
> Sofia wrote:
>> My mother-in-law goes absolutely crazy when she puts bird
>> seed out onto this hanging thingy in her garden for the
>> different little birds living in her area, and in minutes,
>> the entire thing's covered in grey squirrels munching away
>> at it.
>>
>> If you really want to catch a squirrel, you could use the
>> same tactic as a sneaky little squirrel-catching trick.
>>
>
> To outwit squirrels one must, in most circustances where
> luck is not involved, be more clever than the squirrels.
....which is harder than it seems. There was a TV programme a
while ago called SuperSquirrel, in which various "squirrel-
proof" bird feeders proved not to be so. There was some quite
remarkable acrobatics on display, and almost certainly a clear
understanding of cause-and-effect.
I'm almost sure that one of the people involved later said
that the squirrels lost interest when she gave up and just
left the food on the bird table. It wasn't fun any more.
--
Dave
Official Absentee of EU Skiffeysoc
http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/sesoc
"What do monsters have nightmares about?"
"Me!"
-The Doctor
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267537 ] |
Di, 16 Mai 2006 22:06 |
|
Lesley Weston wrote:
> in article 4iq74e.i84.ln [at] 127.0.0.1, Jennifer Stone at
> jmstone [at] NOSPAMlithoi.demon.co.uk wrote on 14/05/2006 10:48 AM:
>
>
>>Lesley Weston wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>>The squirrels in Stanley Park (which is on the Pacific Coast) will search
>>>people's pockets for food, with or without the people's consent, and the
>>>chipmunks in the local mountains will dig whatever they can find out of your
>>>backpack, so that you have to check for them in the backpack before leaving
>>>the mountain top. The whiskey jacks (a type of jay) up there will snatch
>>>food out of your mouth if you're not quick enough in closing your mouth
>>>after taking a bite.
>>>
>>
>>Similarly, the sheep on Helvelyn work in pairs. One of them poses for
>>a pastoral picturesque photograph in front, while the other one nips
>>round behind and pinches your sandwiches out of your rucksack. I have
>>this on the best authority from someone known to someone my parents
>>know (a kind of rural urban myth?)
>
>
> Well then it's indisputably true, while my stories are decidedly dodgy,
> since they are from my personal experience.
>
Of course your story from personal experience is true and the joke out
of a book is suspect! It was sarcasm about the best authority...
--
Jen[nifer Stone]
jmstone at lithoi dot demon dot co dot uk
"In housing his great tortoise, Tsang Wen-Chung
had the capitals of the pillars carved in the
shape of hills and the rafter posts painted in
a duckweed design. What is one to think of his
intelligence?" Confucius, /The Analects/
|
|
|
| Re: [I] Rabbits LOVE apples [message #267615 ] |
Do, 18 Mai 2006 02:20 |
|
in article fcbd4e.u98.ln [at] 127.0.0.1, Jennifer Stone at
jmstone [at] NOSPAMlithoi.demon.co.uk wrote on 16/05/2006 1:06 PM:
> Lesley Weston wrote:
>> in article 4iq74e.i84.ln [at] 127.0.0.1, Jennifer Stone at
>> jmstone [at] NOSPAMlithoi.demon.co.uk wrote on 14/05/2006 10:48 AM:
>>
>>
>>> Lesley Weston wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> The squirrels in Stanley Park (which is on the Pacific Coast) will search
>>>> people's pockets for food, with or without the people's consent, and the
>>>> chipmunks in the local mountains will dig whatever they can find out of
>>>> your
>>>> backpack, so that you have to check for them in the backpack before leaving
>>>> the mountain top. The whiskey jacks (a type of jay) up there will snatch
>>>> food out of your mouth if you're not quick enough in closing your mouth
>>>> after taking a bite.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Similarly, the sheep on Helvelyn work in pairs. One of them poses for
>>> a pastoral picturesque photograph in front, while the other one nips
>>> round behind and pinches your sandwiches out of your rucksack. I have
>>> this on the best authority from someone known to someone my parents
>>> know (a kind of rural urban myth?)
>>
>>
>> Well then it's indisputably true, while my stories are decidedly dodgy,
>> since they are from my personal experience.
>>
>
> Of course your story from personal experience is true and the joke out
> of a book is suspect! It was sarcasm about the best authority...
I know that, it's all right. People do get touchy around here, but I wasn't
doing it then, just trying to go along with your sarcasm.
--
Lesley Weston.
Brightly_coloured_blob is real, but I don't often check even the few bits
that get through Yahoo's filters. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca,
changing spelling and spacing as required.
|
|
|
Gehe zu:
aktuelle Zeit: Sa Mai 26 05:52:03 CEST 2012
Insgesamt benötigte Zeit, um die Seite zu erzeugen: 0,10255 Sekunden |
